(...) You need to invest and empower more people. If you invest in the next gen security box, a hacker will get around it and no one in your organisation will know what to do. (...)

This week we got a visit from HackerFantastic (@hackerfantastic) and we heard about sharing exploits and tool development, training people in hackerhouse by bringing them real world scenarios taught by professional hackers - the fundamentals of security and red teaming - as well as how monolithic organisations can understand their threat model and invest in the right areas of security.

(Audio quality will bring you back to the good old AM days - we're sorry for that!)

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Hosted by CyberSecStu, podcast production: Meadow, PizzaTheHutt, ProxyBlue.

Ep. 23, Some fantastic hackers are about